User talk:Pikachurin/30 July 2010

Thanks !
Thanks for helping us edit the Clannad Wiki. It seems you are experienced in wiki editing. --DL21 13:21, April 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * No, I'm not. I just discovered this wiki while searching for clannad stuff on google, and seeing it wasn't active since 3 months, I decided to show this wiki to the MyAnimeList Clannad fan club. --DL21 18:05, April 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think it's nice. Better than the older. --DL21 18:14, April 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hello again, I saw that someone proposed you to adopt this wiki and that you applied. That's great ! I have something to ask : when you become this wiki's admin, would you let me do a french version of it ? Since I'm french and can translate from english to french. --DL21 09:24, April 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, I won't forget ;) --DL21 16:27, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

Hello
I was going through the list of anime wikis on wikia, and noticed the admin here was not active. Considering the amount of work you have done here, you should ADOPT it.


 * --Sxerks 01:35, April 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * I think they just look at the Special:ListUsers to see the number of edits, and if there is an active sysop. I've seen people given adminship for much much less.--Sxerks 02:12, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

Now that this wiki has an active admin, would you add this link   to the bottom of your SIDEBAR. Its a link to the Anime & Manga Hub on Wikia.

We are currently working on adding basic pages as well as a list of anime wikis on wikia.

The Hub also serves as a place to link to common actors, artists, and anime terms like Rie Kugimiya which you can link to in your articles.

We Also have a monthly Anime/Manga spotlight on our Main Page. Read about it here.

Good luck with the new adminship!


 * --Sxerks 17:37, April 12, 2010 (UTC) from the Anime & Manga Hub


 * There is a footer w:Template:Animangafooter, but it's kind a bulky mess now. The common actors, artists, and anime terms pages may not exist yet(they haven't been a priority), you can create them if you have the time.--Sxerks 21:55, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

add animangafooter
hi there, do any of the sysops here want to add the animanga footer to their main page? use to add the shared template to the main page. feel free to check out what some of the other sites have done
 * p/s: this is the one Sxerks is talking about

Gin-san (Talk) 13:40, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

Squidoo
Hi Pikachurin. Did you leave me a message on Squidoo? I managed to lose your comment somehow so I couldn't reply to it there. I don't see any way to add a lens to the group (Squidoo has completely changed since I last used it). I think that you need to add it yourself and then I can approve it, but I'm not totally sure. Angela (talk) 02:45, April 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't know either. It used to be obvious, but now I don't see any links to do that. Robin Patterson was quite involved with Squidoo lenses before. Maybe he still is and could help you. If not, there's a help forum for Squidoo here. Angela (talk) 03:07, April 14, 2010 (UTC)

RE: French translation
Well, we're talking about an Étude, in the musical sense. Even in English, it's still "Étude" : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89tude --DL21 06:51, April 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * So the right english translation would be "Étude for the Small Superstrings". --DL21 06:59, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

lmao
it's pink ... on blue!

it's bloated, poorly aranged and inconsistent.

the content is mostly the stuff i copy/pasted and didnt get the time to rewrite.

...

it's a train wreck.

protips
here are some protips:

-fix the crappy main page align using tabels (it's embarasing, it's been more than a week now and you still didnt nail it ^^)

-use a consistent color theme (infoboxes, frame icons)

-clear the infoboxes as it contain useess info (unless you plan on creating some top pages with the characters categorized by hair/eye colors or jobs, you know, like in pokemon) and remove redundant info either form the boxes or the articles (air dates, relatives)

-if you want to poke the eyes of the visitors with big, bold, centered, red signs, do it consistently (add them in the top pages with the episodes list or remove individual episodes pages altogether) or remove them and replace that with some elegant notes or buttons (use the css)

-remove navboxes altogether or find a way to make them useable (long names with • between are far from being usable without some other obvious visual cues)

-making a page look like other wikis doesnt make it good

-the quality if a wiki is not measured by the number of articles

-"any part of a site must be reachable with less that 3 clicks"

-add liks to, you know, important pages (like, i dont know, the ones that talk about clannad ?)

-understand that "only" the admin can change the main css.

-use _ _NOTOC_ _ and/or _ _NOEDITSECTION_ _ to clean pages

-understand that clannad spans more that 1 year when adding age in the infobox

-if you dont want someone/s opinion dont ask for it

-remove link to Special:AllPages, that page it's to messed due to the large number of improper marked/named articles

-remove or move to the bottom the links to pages that are not "directly" related to clannad

-wikipedia articles are not crappy (i must be wrong, but i thought those set the standards when it comes to wikis)

-main pages dont have to be info packed, they have to provide the user with directions to "anything" he might be looking for

-wikitext and templates are ugh /rant

-keep in mind clannad has multiple alternative endings when stating relations (dont forget the big, centered red signs ^^)

-read some articles about modern webdesign

other then that, wow, 20-30% is a lot :)) glad i could contribute that much :))

also i think you missed the point i marked in big bold black letters right under the title ... this was supposed to be about the anime only ... meh ...

have fun editing pokemon clannad wikia.

re:re
neat tweak to fix alignment ;)

although it could have been done while keeping the original size of the picture.

'relatives aren't redundant'. i think that a link right under the title, b4 the start of the article makes it redundant (one of this needs to be removed).

i was pointing out that at the moment not *all* is a spoiler.

navboxes are useful but being bombarded with the titles defeats the purpose. it needs more visual cues like episode numbers or being arranged like a list.

main page *needs* links to the articles that give an overview over the anime seasons, ovas, visual novel, mangas and movie.

the menu is redundant with the content as the articles contain navboxes that also offer a better overview.

the 3 clicks rule is not by me. it's something my teacher hammered into my brain and later iwe encountered in various articles.

now, try and browse to a song or to the clannad article starting from the main page using the obvious option any new user would use (the big bright buttons you are so proud of).

notoc and/or noedit: header2 looks perfect with the edit button at the end but header3,4 ... not so much.

irrelevant stuff:
 * login and register: a user who has an account either knows where the login is at a glance; a new user who doesnt have an account might have a hard time not noticing the bright button at the top
 * browse by category leats to a page with irelevant info
 * getting started should be lower at important informations below the semi-redundant create article box
 * recent changes should be either be removed and never mentioned (the regular user doesnt need to know what happens under the hood) or replaced with a box (if you really want to brag with the changes)
 * water..., wikia are community related and should remain under that menu button


 * article search ... idk it's already obvious above the menu ...


 * animanga footer. this.is.annoying.me.off. i want the user to stay and browse this wikia and maybe this would make him want to became a contributor. i dont want to offer him links that would lead him outside this wikia anywhere else besides sites directly related to clannad. marketing!


 * character button should lead to a user-friendly page (pictures of the characters with the name besides and maybe a *short* paragraph araanged by relations or debut).


 * music button leads to a page with useless categories, it should be user-friendly (list with the songs categorized by album)


 * locations .. pff .. the same ...

templates forces editing in source mode.

that is far from user-friendly.

even html with inline css is accepted by the rtf editor even if it has a more complex structure.

no, thank you, i dont like wikitext and i dont have even the slightest intention of learning anything besides what iwe already picked up b4 switching to html to do what i couldn't do, so i wont edit anything from now on. ill just bitch around about stuff i dont like :))

bwahaha edit count :)) u win a cookie :))

that is why pokemon was strike through. after 0.001 seconds of thinking i decided that i might have been wrong :D

about the names:

i initially planned a wikia targeted to the new anime user loking for general info, so i used romanized names only and the western naming model but dl21 edited everything and me, being lazy, left it like that.

now that the purpose and target of the wikia changed, keeping them like they are now makes sense.

also, im a fan of rick astley, so im not used to completely quiting ;); maybe when you become boring or smarter :)

1braete 12:39, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

re
http://clannad.wikia.com/index.php?title=Template%3AFeatured_pages_css&diff=6088&oldid=6009
 * this what (px=47)


 * headers

header4

 * articles (that where part of a top article you split, witch also contained an overview over the ovas)

http://clannad.wikia.com/wiki/Clannad

http://clannad.wikia.com/wiki/Clannad_~After_Story~

1braete

RE: Welcome

 * "Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything!"

Well, I don't think I need any help, but I may be able to offer some assistance. Wikia's normally-bad design module (read: Green buttons on blue skin) continues here with the blue bar behind the Save and Preview buttons on the green skin. Honestly, I don't know what's wrong with them. Regardless, I figured you may support changing it to a nicer green shade, such as #92ab77, the one you use on the border of Infobox css. This could be done by adding the following code to MediaWiki:Common.css:

background-color:#92ab77 !important; }
 * 1) edit_enhancements_toolbar {

Thought I'd mention it anyway. Let me know if you need any help around here, ~ Michael von Preußen (voicemail)


 * Oh, though I'm curious about copyright policies (specifically regarding images and audio). I was in the process of uploading a sound sample of Mag Mell when I realized it was possible your policies could allow the whole thing. ~ Michael von Preußen (voicemail)


 * Sounds good (re copyright policies).


 * Regarding headers... well, first of all, if you want to make extensive changes, it's better to switch to a custom theme and edit MediaWiki:Monaco.css. For example, if I had done that on the Cyber Nations Wiki, it would avoid the delay of the green buttons turning blue when pages load.  However, the reason I didn't do that on the CN Wiki was because I'm unsure of what the implications are of changing to a custom theme (for example, whether an entire stylesheet needs to be redone (like Wookieepedia has done, for example), or whether only portions can.  Until I've figured that out, I for one am not going to mess around with it too much.  However, if you're interested, there are help sheets written about it.


 * The main color customization info is here. If, for example, you wanted to change everything that was that shade of blue for the editbar, you could have set that as ".accent" instead of "#edit_enhancements_toolbar".  Since I was unsure of what else may be classed as accent, I figured changing just that was best for now.


 * The userpage tabs are all defined as the "color1" class, which means you can use the same code above, but set ".color1" instead of "#edit_enhancements_toolbar". If you want to change them individually, you can use "#user_masthead_tab_myhome", "#user_masthead_tab_user", "#user_masthead_tab_usertalk", "#user_masthead_tab_userblog", "#user_masthead_tab_following", and "#user_masthead_tab_contributions" to edit them.  The header background color can be edited with "#user_masthead_head".


 * As for the Lyrics template, first, I must thank you for showing me what the heck "#tag" does. I was always curious about that.  As for the problem, I fixed it as such. ~ Michael von Preußen (voicemail)


 * No problem. Remember, though, that Monaco.css changes will only be applied if you switch the wiki to a custom skin using the bottom section of Special:Preferences. ~ Michael von Preußen (voicemail)

Editing help
Hello, I am actually amazed by your editing! Everything on this wiki looks really nice! I have made a Kyoto Animation wiki (http://www.kyotoanimation.wikia.com) and I was wondering if you could help with it. I need help making templates and stuff. Pretty please? My editing is really messy and it's hard managing a wiki by yourself. I'd help with this wiki but I haven't watched clannad or clannad after story yet. Aivilo 12:52, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

Clannad stuff
Could you add stuff about clannad to it? i want there to be brief stuff about the characters, shows and episodes. i have done quite a few pages, some with only a couple sentences and some with pictures and infoboxes a loads of info :D have links to the wikis for the shows in the sidebar, like the haruhi wiki and this wiki :DAivilo 14:12, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

Suggestion
Hey Pikachurin,

If I may make a small suggestion: given that the Main Page of the wiki has a much smaller width than the rest of the pages, you may have noticed that the rectangular shape of the new logo is extremely noticeable, as is the cutoff of the "Clannad" text on it (though it appears you're in the process of fixing that).

If I may make a suggestion, it would be to set the logo to display on the main page to not have the dango background. You can do this with CSS by adding the following to MediaWiki:Common.css:

body.mainpage #p-logo a, body.mainpage #wiki_logo { background-image: url(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/clannad/images/thumb/e/ef/Clannad_Wiki_Logo.svg/200px-Clannad_Wiki_Logo.svg.png) !important; }

Hope this helps!

Cheers, ~ Michael von Preußen (voicemail)


 * Oh God, Wikia's gone and moved the second-level header lines overtop of the heading instead of underneath it like it used to be. Don't know if you care or not, but in case you do, CSS to fix it can be found here. ~ Michael von Preußen (voicemail)
 * Fixed that code for the contents boxes.  von Preußen   voicemail   @ 8:42, Duodi, 12 Messidor CCXVIII
 * The following code will remove the underline on the "Contents" heading caused by the fix I provided before:

 div#toctitle h2 { border: none !important; } 
 * On another note, the following code will round the masthead buttons on CSS3-compliant non-Firefox browsers, if you care:

 #user_masthead_tab_myhome, #user_masthead_tab_user, #user_masthead_tab_usertalk, #user_masthead_tab_userblog, #user_masthead_tab_following, #user_masthead_tab_watchlist, #user_masthead_tab_contributions { border-top-left-radius: 8px; border-top-right-radius: 8px; } </dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 * <span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;  vonPreußen  &#65295;  talk 

RE: Welcome
Haha, thank you!! I'm quite a devoted Clannad fan, and right now I'm working on the Spanish translation of the visual novel, so I know quite a bit about the original source material. I'm creating an article of the Illusionary World right now. Let's make this wiki a really great place for Clannad viewers!

(Nuts4everafter 21:28, July 8, 2010 (UTC))

Infobox change
I don't really know... Japanese people do this thing, especially with the protagonists of the games (the girls) because many players in Japan seem to want to know the height and weight of the heroines, and sometimes the male protagonists too. And Japanese people seem to think that your bloodtype defines your character, so that is also understandable. If you can edit the character template, I'm not really against it. However, I would just include height, blood type and weight.

Even if you didnt' mention it, since they are also in the Japanese wikipedia, I must say I wouldn't include the girls' three sizes. I'm a woman myself and I find it annoying when I see those. It's like they're trying to advertise the girls as if they were... objects. And moreover, Clannad isn't an eroge, so this kind of thing is completely unnecessary. But yeah, it would probably be a good idea to add height and weight to the profiles.
 * I support this change if it's what I understand it to be. 〆<small style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-style:italic; vertical-align: baseline; position: relative; bottom: 0.33em;"> vonPreußen ／ <small style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-style:italic; vertical-align: baseline; position: relative; bottom: -0.25em;"> talk
 * Hey, thanks for bothering to add everything. It was great to see this new information. But I don't really know why, all the charcters in Clannad except for Misae and Yoshino seem really... short. Well, at least it's not as ridiculous as Little Busters! was. When I saw Kud was 145 cm and weighted 37 kilograms... I was about to burst out laughing.
 * By the way, I've noticed you've put a gallery for Sunohara... It would be kind of strange to only have it for him, so do you think we should add one for at least the pricipal characters?Nuts4everafter 08:53, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well... since you were the one who added the sizes, I was thinking that maybe I should be the one to do this. I was thinking of 3 images for the protagonists (Tomoya and the girls), 2 for the secondary caracters and 1 for the minor ones. I'll start uploading images and if you think any of them are unsuitable of another option would be better, feel free to change it. Nuts4everafter 15:51, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey, I just did Nagisa's gallery. How's it looking?Nuts4everafter 16:18, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well... since you were the one who added the sizes, I was thinking that maybe I should be the one to do this. I was thinking of 3 images for the protagonists (Tomoya and the girls), 2 for the secondary caracters and 1 for the minor ones. I'll start uploading images and if you think any of them are unsuitable of another option would be better, feel free to change it. Nuts4everafter 15:51, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey, I just did Nagisa's gallery. How's it looking?Nuts4everafter 16:18, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey, I just did Nagisa's gallery. How's it looking?Nuts4everafter 16:18, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey, I just did Nagisa's gallery. How's it looking?Nuts4everafter 16:18, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

Rounding
Use the #expr parser function with a  operator. Something like  should produce. If you have difficulties, let me know. :) &#12294;<small style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-style:italic; vertical-align: baseline; position: relative; bottom: 0.33em;"> vonPreußen &#65295; <small style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-style:italic; vertical-align: baseline; position: relative; bottom: -0.25em;"> talk
 * Glad I could help. &#12294;<small style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-style:italic; vertical-align: baseline; position: relative; bottom: 0.33em;"> vonPreußen &#65295; <small style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-style:italic; vertical-align: baseline; position: relative; bottom: -0.25em;"> talk
 * Ooh, now, that is a nice use for it. :3 &#12294;<small style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-style:italic; vertical-align: baseline; position: relative; bottom: 0.33em;"> vonPreußen &#65295; <small style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-style:italic; vertical-align: baseline; position: relative; bottom: -0.25em;"> talk

Visual editor
I doubt you use the rich text editor that Wikia's got running now, which is why you (and I until now) likely havn't noticed, but unlike the CN Wiki, the rich text editor is still enabled as the default editor for this wiki. It has a tendency to cause problems (see here for examples). I recommend you request Wikia disable it on this wiki, but it's ultimately your call. &#12294;<small style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-style:italic; vertical-align: baseline; position: relative; bottom: 0.33em;"> vonPreußen &#65295; <small style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-style:italic; vertical-align: baseline; position: relative; bottom: -0.25em;"> talk
 * Thanks! :) <span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;  vonPreußen  &#65295;  talk 
 * >_>. I'm rather unclear on how they think it's "better", wikis everywhere have survived on wikitext for the past forever.  Oh well.  If When it starts screwing up, there'll be evidence to push in their face :P <span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;  vonPreußen  &#65295;  talk 

Water Cooler Discussion
The "Water Cooler Discussion" link in the sidebar links to Clannad Wiki talk:Community Portal instead of Clannad Wiki talk:Watercooler. You may want to update that :) <span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;  vonPreußen  &#65295;  talk 
 * Thanks. You may also be interested in ep, I threw it together today. <span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;  vonPreußen  &#65295;  talk 
 * Heh. There's probably little purpose to replacing all the current ones, really; I just figured it'd be useful for quick additions :P <span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;  vonPreußen  &#65295;  talk